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	<description>Life &#38; Everything Else</description>
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		<title>By: Lachlan Pitts</title>
		<link>http://ryanbigg.com/2010/02/congratulations/comment-page-1/#comment-39119</link>
		<dc:creator>Lachlan Pitts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 03:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I SO identify with this post.... ta, Ryan. Time to try and implement the better scenario....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I SO identify with this post&#8230;. ta, Ryan. Time to try and implement the better scenario&#8230;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Herberth Amaral</title>
		<link>http://ryanbigg.com/2010/02/congratulations/comment-page-1/#comment-38914</link>
		<dc:creator>Herberth Amaral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Amazing. I translated your post to Portuguese and you can see it here: http://herberthamaral.com/2010/06/parabens/&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Congratulations!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing. I translated your post to Portuguese and you can see it here: <a href="http://herberthamaral.com/2010/06/parabens/" rel="nofollow">http://herberthamaral.com/2010/06/parabens/</a></p>

<p>Congratulations!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Parabéns &#124; Herberth Amaral</title>
		<link>http://ryanbigg.com/2010/02/congratulations/comment-page-1/#comment-38913</link>
		<dc:creator>Parabéns &#124; Herberth Amaral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...]  [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Peter Marreck</title>
		<link>http://ryanbigg.com/2010/02/congratulations/comment-page-1/#comment-37941</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Marreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 14:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Radar&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think starting everyone off straight out of the sandbox with some kind of testing habit is a great idea. Then there wouldn&#039;t be a big leap you&#039;d have to do later, it would just be how everyone does it. You&#039;d think that after this much time with testing frameworks out there and proven to work (despite the small amount of extra upfront work) that this would already be religion, but we could start with Rails books for sure (if not programming classes in school). It&#039;s kind of funny that Rails has stubbed out tests from the get-go but doesn&#039;t emphasize it enough in the books. Were they afraid it would make it too DRY? :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I just helped launch a website and our Cucumber/rspec test suite (imperfect as it is) not only gave us a fairly smooth launch but has been an invaluable aid in diagnosing unexpected (aren&#039;t they always?) regressions in our codebase as we start to pile on more features and bugfixes. This is especially true if 2+ people start working on the same code.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Write tests so you can sleep at night.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Radar</p>

<p>I think starting everyone off straight out of the sandbox with some kind of testing habit is a great idea. Then there wouldn&#8217;t be a big leap you&#8217;d have to do later, it would just be how everyone does it. You&#8217;d think that after this much time with testing frameworks out there and proven to work (despite the small amount of extra upfront work) that this would already be religion, but we could start with Rails books for sure (if not programming classes in school). It&#8217;s kind of funny that Rails has stubbed out tests from the get-go but doesn&#8217;t emphasize it enough in the books. Were they afraid it would make it too DRY? :)</p>

<p>I just helped launch a website and our Cucumber/rspec test suite (imperfect as it is) not only gave us a fairly smooth launch but has been an invaluable aid in diagnosing unexpected (aren&#8217;t they always?) regressions in our codebase as we start to pile on more features and bugfixes. This is especially true if 2+ people start working on the same code.</p>

<p>Write tests so you can sleep at night.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Radar</title>
		<link>http://ryanbigg.com/2010/02/congratulations/comment-page-1/#comment-36284</link>
		<dc:creator>Radar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 20:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Douglas:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If there was perhaps a book that would go through &lt;em&gt;from the beginning&lt;/em&gt; and show the reader how to develop a Rails app from scratch using testing then it would be an accepted part of life. Too many people have shown examples of the short-term gains in Rails (which is great for pulling people in), but testing really demonstrates the long-term gains you can achieve by using Rails also.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Douglas:</p>

<p>If there was perhaps a book that would go through <em>from the beginning</em> and show the reader how to develop a Rails app from scratch using testing then it would be an accepted part of life. Too many people have shown examples of the short-term gains in Rails (which is great for pulling people in), but testing really demonstrates the long-term gains you can achieve by using Rails also.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Douglas Campos (qmx)</title>
		<link>http://ryanbigg.com/2010/02/congratulations/comment-page-1/#comment-35327</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Campos (qmx)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Awesome Radar - What can we do to reduce the learning curve of test-first/tdd/bdd/whatever? Can time only settle this?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome Radar &#8211; What can we do to reduce the learning curve of test-first/tdd/bdd/whatever? Can time only settle this?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris Lerum</title>
		<link>http://ryanbigg.com/2010/02/congratulations/comment-page-1/#comment-35310</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Lerum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Ryan, that was great. This needs to be printed out and staple-gunned to some church doors somewhere. Churches that bosses attend.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ryan, that was great. This needs to be printed out and staple-gunned to some church doors somewhere. Churches that bosses attend.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ralxz</title>
		<link>http://ryanbigg.com/2010/02/congratulations/comment-page-1/#comment-33902</link>
		<dc:creator>ralxz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is awesome Ryan, great storytelling&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome Ryan, great storytelling</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: oren</title>
		<link>http://ryanbigg.com/2010/02/congratulations/comment-page-1/#comment-33129</link>
		<dc:creator>oren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 21:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank you Radar for an insightful post.
I use many of the tools you mentioned here.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ll try to find time and contribute to your blorgh project!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Radar for an insightful post.
I use many of the tools you mentioned here.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ll try to find time and contribute to your blorgh project!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris Gilbert</title>
		<link>http://ryanbigg.com/2010/02/congratulations/comment-page-1/#comment-33103</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Gilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Very nice writeup. Please print this story onto little hardbound books and air-drop them over the next railscamp/teched/code camp/etc.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice writeup. Please print this story onto little hardbound books and air-drop them over the next railscamp/teched/code camp/etc.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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